Wednesday - Weatherbys Champion Bumper (Open NH Flat Race) - OHR

**The Duke** · **20-01-09**, **07:45 PM**

Thoughts to follow...

**FMH** · **07-03-09**, **07:34 PM**

I like to go for a 5yo that's only had one run and won.

With the amount of nice bumper horses Willie Mullins has this year, I find it hard to see him not winning it.

Out of his theres:
Gagewell Flyer
Not For Converting
Quel Esprit

Theres words going round that Sicilian Secret is his bumper horse this year but I'm not convinced. At the moment I like Quel Esprit, but will make a decision on the day.

After looking at the previous runnings of the bumper, it looks as though Mullins does better when he doesn't have multiple runners, so it looks as though when he enters loads up he doesn't have anything that stands out, maybe?

Also after looking at it, the market isn't a guide in this race, as when one of Mullins has won, on all but one or two occasions it's been one that hasn't been supported as well as another of his runners. It seems as though punters jump on the one that Ruby's riding.

I'll probably go for the one that Paul Townend rides, If Mullins does have a good one this year, I reckon he'll have him on it.

**FMH** · **10-03-09**, **09:09 PM**

Been looking at this again and although the jockey bookings might suggest otherwise, I think Gagewell Flyer could be the winner. Will probably back Meath All Star e/w even though its a 6yo, but Paul Townend provides most of Mullins bumper winners and I reckon he'd want him on his leading chance.

Another thing I've noticed is that if a good candidate for the bumper is found, it's put away and doesn't run that year.
Morning Supreme, Gagewell Flyer and Meath All Star all fall into that category.

At the moment I'm strongly against Sicilian Secret.

**The Duke** · **10-03-09**, **10:36 PM**

Some Present will win the bumper. Get ya fancy prices!

**talkingspeedway** · **11-03-09**, **12:47 AM**

I'm against Sicilian Secret for the simple reason that Willie Mullins has publicly stated that it's his best bumper horse. He played games with Hurricane Fly, he played games with Cousin Vinny and the course workout he gave his bumper string not so long ago was laughable as a means of determining rank.

Dunguib looks an absolute monster to me and I'm happy taking the 7/1.

I've also had a little each-way on Henry King of Victor Dartnall's.

**Los** · **11-03-09**, **11:05 AM**

Beware of stable 2nd or 3rd strings in this race as they often go better than the "fancied2 horse. If you believe Mr Weld, Rite of Passage isn't his best horse.

**skydog** · **11-03-09**, **11:49 AM**

Originally Posted by The Duke

Some Present will win the bumper. Get ya fancy prices!

Interesting. Bit of a race to dodge but Nicholls doesn't have many 33/1 shots so Red Harbour will carry my £1 ew.

**talkingspeedway** · **11-03-09**, **05:33 PM**

Monster

**Macca™** · **11-03-09**, **05:36 PM**

Originally Posted by The Duke

Some Present will win the bumper. Get ya fancy prices!

Ran a stormer man, 2nd, was 33s think it went off 25s.

**FMH** · **11-03-09**, **05:39 PM**

Well done Jamie and TSW.

I got it completely wrong this year, I think it's quite strong that when Mullins has multiple runners he doesn't win.

**kidoncricketer** · **11-03-09**, **05:50 PM**

that should be a golden rule FMH

well done on some present and dunguib guys.

great racing today, and i didnt have a winner !!!!

**The Duke** · **11-03-09**, **06:09 PM**

Well done Dunguib backers, if it was any other year Some Present would have landed me some massive bets at 40-1. I've had a nice wedge each-way on it, but have been backing it for months albeit at small amounts in the win market.

Not to worry!

20-01-09, 07:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Duke The Iron Horse Join Date: Mar 2005 Twitter: @OHRacing Location: West Midlands	Wednesday - Weatherbys Champion Bumper (Open NH Flat Race) Thoughts to follow...

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talkingspeedway Low Grade Handicapper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Midlands	I'm against Sicilian Secret for the simple reason that Willie Mullins has publicly stated that it's his best bumper horse. He played games with Hurricane Fly, he played games with Cousin Vinny and the course workout he gave his bumper string not so long ago was laughable as a means of determining rank. Dunguib looks an absolute monster to me and I'm happy taking the 7/1. I've also had a little each-way on Henry King of Victor Dartnall's. Last edited by talkingspeedway; 11-03-09 at 01:15 AM..

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07-03-09, 07:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
FMH Back From The Dead Join Date: Sep 2006	I like to go for a 5yo that's only had one run and won. With the amount of nice bumper horses Willie Mullins has this year, I find it hard to see him not winning it. Out of his theres: Gagewell Flyer Not For Converting Quel Esprit Theres words going round that Sicilian Secret is his bumper horse this year but I'm not convinced. At the moment I like Quel Esprit, but will make a decision on the day. After looking at the previous runnings of the bumper, it looks as though Mullins does better when he doesn't have multiple runners, so it looks as though when he enters loads up he doesn't have anything that stands out, maybe? Also after looking at it, the market isn't a guide in this race, as when one of Mullins has won, on all but one or two occasions it's been one that hasn't been supported as well as another of his runners. It seems as though punters jump on the one that Ruby's riding. I'll probably go for the one that Paul Townend rides, If Mullins does have a good one this year, I reckon he'll have him on it.

10-03-09, 09:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
FMH Back From The Dead Join Date: Sep 2006	Been looking at this again and although the jockey bookings might suggest otherwise, I think Gagewell Flyer could be the winner. Will probably back Meath All Star e/w even though its a 6yo, but Paul Townend provides most of Mullins bumper winners and I reckon he'd want him on his leading chance. Another thing I've noticed is that if a good candidate for the bumper is found, it's put away and doesn't run that year. Morning Supreme, Gagewell Flyer and Meath All Star all fall into that category. At the moment I'm strongly against Sicilian Secret.

10-03-09, 10:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
The Duke The Iron Horse Join Date: Mar 2005 Twitter: @OHRacing Location: West Midlands	Some Present will win the bumper. Get ya fancy prices!

11-03-09, 11:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
Los Selling Plater Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Manchester	Beware of stable 2nd or 3rd strings in this race as they often go better than the "fancied2 horse. If you believe Mr Weld, Rite of Passage isn't his best horse.

11-03-09, 05:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
talkingspeedway Low Grade Handicapper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Midlands	Monster

11-03-09, 05:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
FMH Back From The Dead Join Date: Sep 2006	Well done Jamie and TSW. I got it completely wrong this year, I think it's quite strong that when Mullins has multiple runners he doesn't win.

11-03-09, 05:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
kidoncricketer soccer guru Join Date: May 2005 Location: scotland	that should be a golden rule FMH well done on some present and dunguib guys. great racing today, and i didnt have a winner !!!!

11-03-09, 06:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
The Duke The Iron Horse Join Date: Mar 2005 Twitter: @OHRacing Location: West Midlands	Well done Dunguib backers, if it was any other year Some Present would have landed me some massive bets at 40-1. I've had a nice wedge each-way on it, but have been backing it for months albeit at small amounts in the win market. Not to worry!

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