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**Spook** · **06-03-09**, **09:25 PM**

Originally Posted by Salmon Spray

I heard last week JP other horse Ainama will wait for Aintree and AP will now ride the big tip Micheal Flips who I wish now I had backed at 25/1. AP must know the time of day with him haven also ridden Torphichen
.

Urm........ looks like you've heard wrong

**talkingspeedway** · **09-03-09**, **04:19 PM**

Not quite, Spook, as that was indeed the plan. Tony McCoy went to Andrew Turnell's yard to school Michael Flips and was, by all accounts, extremely keen to ride him. However, Ainama was eventually given the green light to take up his place in the race, leaving AP's hands somewhat tied.

I'm hoping that the likely strong winds will undo most of the damage tonight's forecast rain does to the course, leaving it no worse than good-to-soft. If that proves to be the case, Red Moloney has massive - and I mean massive - claims.

**Norton** · **10-03-09**, **09:44 AM**

Supreme Novices Hurdle

19th December at Ascot, 2m on G/S

1st Medermit 11-7
6th Alfie Flits 11-7 (beaten 10l)

13th February at Sandown, 2m 1/2f on S

1st Torphichen 11-4
2nd Trenchant 11-4 (beaten 3 3/4l)

21st February at Kempton, 2m on G/S

1st Trenchant 10-11
4th Alfie Flits 11-9 (beaten 2 3/4l)

On the basis of those form lines Medermit should be able to give Torphichen 12lbs and a 3.5l beating, but only has to give the 4yr old 8lbs today yet is over double the price. Now Torphichen may well have the greater degree of improvement left, being a 4yr old, but that improvement has to come in the last month, whereas Medermit has 6 weeks on him to find some improvement and given he has improved for each run then that is more than likely. All in all it makes Medermit look like good value at 14/1

**talkingspeedway** · **10-03-09**, **10:20 AM**

If only form were that easy to assess, Norton, the betting game would be a piece of cake.

I wouldn't be quick to place any faith in Medermit's beating of Dee Eee Williams, with third-placed Wendel having also since been mullered in Scotland.

**Thommo** · **10-03-09**, **01:41 PM**

Sick about Medermit in that.

Jumped into the back of Cousin Vinny at the last and would surely have won had that not have happened the way he ran on up the hill....

**The Duke** · **10-03-09**, **01:45 PM**

Have to agree Medermit backers can feel slightly unlucky there.

**Norton** · **10-03-09**, **01:48 PM**

Originally Posted by talkingspeedway

If only form were that easy to assess, Norton, the betting game would be a piece of cake.

I wouldn't be quick to place any faith in Medermit's beating of Dee Eee Williams, with third-placed Wendel having also since been mullered in Scotland.

Well the proof is in the pudding as they say

As Thommo says - gutted, if Cousin Vinny hadn't made a hash of the last I think mine would have got up, but that momentum lost was crucial

**Bally** · **10-03-09**, **01:59 PM**

If the 1st and 2nd weren't in the race I would of won......

If you dont want the mistakes. Stick to the flat

Roll on the flat!!!!

**The Duke** · **10-03-09**, **02:00 PM**

That Somersby will make a cracking chaser I'd say.

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09-03-09, 04:19 PM	#27 (permalink)
talkingspeedway Low Grade Handicapper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Midlands	Not quite, Spook, as that was indeed the plan. Tony McCoy went to Andrew Turnell's yard to school Michael Flips and was, by all accounts, extremely keen to ride him. However, Ainama was eventually given the green light to take up his place in the race, leaving AP's hands somewhat tied. I'm hoping that the likely strong winds will undo most of the damage tonight's forecast rain does to the course, leaving it no worse than good-to-soft. If that proves to be the case, Red Moloney has massive - and I mean massive - claims.

10-03-09, 09:44 AM	#28 (permalink)
Norton i > u Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: At the tables	Supreme Novices Hurdle 19th December at Ascot, 2m on G/S 1st Medermit 11-7 6th Alfie Flits 11-7 (beaten 10l) 13th February at Sandown, 2m 1/2f on S 1st Torphichen 11-4 2nd Trenchant 11-4 (beaten 3 3/4l) 21st February at Kempton, 2m on G/S 1st Trenchant 10-11 4th Alfie Flits 11-9 (beaten 2 3/4l) On the basis of those form lines Medermit should be able to give Torphichen 12lbs and a 3.5l beating, but only has to give the 4yr old 8lbs today yet is over double the price. Now Torphichen may well have the greater degree of improvement left, being a 4yr old, but that improvement has to come in the last month, whereas Medermit has 6 weeks on him to find some improvement and given he has improved for each run then that is more than likely. All in all it makes Medermit look like good value at 14/1

10-03-09, 10:20 AM	#29 (permalink)
talkingspeedway Low Grade Handicapper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Midlands	If only form were that easy to assess, Norton, the betting game would be a piece of cake. I wouldn't be quick to place any faith in Medermit's beating of Dee Eee Williams, with third-placed Wendel having also since been mullered in Scotland.

10-03-09, 01:41 PM	#30 (permalink)
Thommo Hardcore Raver Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ayr.	Sick about Medermit in that. Jumped into the back of Cousin Vinny at the last and would surely have won had that not have happened the way he ran on up the hill....

10-03-09, 01:45 PM	#31 (permalink)
The Duke The Iron Horse Join Date: Mar 2005 Twitter: @OHRacing Location: West Midlands	Have to agree Medermit backers can feel slightly unlucky there.

10-03-09, 01:59 PM	#33 (permalink)
Bally The Sex God Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Liverpool	If the 1st and 2nd weren't in the race I would of won...... If you dont want the mistakes. Stick to the flat Roll on the flat!!!!

10-03-09, 02:00 PM	#34 (permalink)
The Duke The Iron Horse Join Date: Mar 2005 Twitter: @OHRacing Location: West Midlands	That Somersby will make a cracking chaser I'd say.

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